100% of this rut is caused by all the drama that surrounds the HL2 leak and the people who work on it. Said people are constantly on edge. Everyone is highly critical of the each other, and the list goes on and on.

Case in point, our release at betaarchive. Hogsy(harhui) and ScarT were highly critical of our work. To the point where their posts were edited by a moderator. Even after I did my best to treat them both with respect.

This incident set the precedent to be defensive when someone posts something critical. This mindset only serves to further miscommunication and disrespect. I hope ScarT understands where I am coming from. No disrespect towards anyone here, just stating my thoughts and feelings.



That seems like a good chunk of work. I've got no issues with testing that theory out. The onus is really on Team Gaben itself.



No doubt that Team GabeN has talent. With the work I've seen from MI and their media for TG, they're certainly accomplished developers. Releasing stuff lets everyone else enjoy the fruits of a team's labor.



I'll look at this objectively. I've seen Team Gaben's mappers, specifically Junk, and I admire his work. I've also seen slkandy's work which also looks very professional.

From the outsider's view, a collaboration effort between TG and TAP is worth a shot. If Team Gaben is open to the idea, I'm sure I could convince my team to do the same.



I know Saul and I have a lot of experience in python. We could easily add in python as a scripting language for community modifications.



I wouldn't call it learning so much as just putting the past behind and actually working towards a common goal.



All I can say is, a few of their members seem alright. By associating themselves with the select few hellbent on disrespect and drama, they're going to get dragged down. My advice to them: Split when you can.



I don't buy into that. What's there to be incompatible about?

I'm all for a joint effort, even if it's just a little fortnight long test of the idea.

I stand by what ynh said because I feel the exact same way. He was just able to put it into words much better than I can.

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Brotip: I reported the post to Andrew from BA, and he moderated it on my request.

Looking the Team page here on this site makes it obvious. We aren't in need of three more programmers. Granted we could use more mappers but we haven't seen anything that'd make us remotely interested. From a GabeN/MI point of view nothing new would be brought to the table, really. If there was an animator on this team we'd talk, but there isn't.

Its obvious someone doesn't read my blog and if they did they should be honored that I actually found it worth mentioning them.

In regards to AGNMI just ignore them, that's what we're doing. Its a bunch of kids blindly following a sad lonely German kid that's fighting a war that only exists in his head. He's trying to use GabeN as a scapegoat for losing his YouTube account. You can't win them all, and we aren't going to try.

I think that's all.

He also moderated yours.



I think all of us here read your blog. It's pretentious to state that we should feel honored. Doesn't make an ounce of difference to us if you mention us or not. Especially when your posts consisted of: "Broken shaders", "Looks like they're dead", and "Good luck to them." Oh, and when ben decided to message you with random bullshit.



The idea was more along the lines of working together rather than merging teams. On a second note, I'm more interested in the leak than anything else. Like I said, I'm open to a collaboration effort. Funnily enough, I think a few naysayers would shit themselves if this ever happened.

Personally, I don't see how it could hurt, but pardon my logical thinking.



Seems like this is the only common ground TAP and TG will ever have.